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Obama, a trail of broken promises?
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gomtuu77
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 Re: Obama, a trail of broken promises?
I can't account for why you find my statement of support to be "highly counter-intuitive." You either agree or you disagree that a) the president is a good man; b) he is doing his best for our country; and c) his best is good enough or at least as good as anyone else could do in his position. I am aware that you do not agree. a) This is unknown, but based upon the behavior I'm seeing, I have reason to doubt that he's a good man. b) I think he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, but since his policies are deeply wrong/mistaken, he is actually not doing what is best for our nation. I do hope for and look forward to a time when he will however. c) No, I'm sure someone could have done far better. Perhaps attempting to actually understand our economic crisis and getting advice from the people who predicted it as a result of understanding how economics works better than their counter-parts would have been a good start. Apart from perhaps his Afghanistan policy, I cannot think of very many Obama policies that have been anything but counter-intuitive. In His Grip, christian_concern@yahoo.com
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| Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:40 am |
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Plekto
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 Re: Obama, a trail of broken promises?
The problem with C above is that absolutely nobody in politics in either of the two major parties believes anything other than the same economic policies that we've been operating under for the last 40 years or so.
The problem is that what needs to be done isn't su[ported by a single person in Congress, the JUdiciary, or by any of the so called experts. At least not the ones that are being listened to.
I liken it to the same idiocy that people had 500 years ago when they believed that the Earth was the center of the Universe. It just *was* and that was that - thankyouverymuch, end of discussion, now go home or get out of town.
Until at least a FEW of our "leaders" start realizing this, the outcome would have been absolutely no better than it currently is.
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spblat
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Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:42 am Posts: 5573 Location: Portland
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 Re: Obama, a trail of broken promises?
I can't account for why you find my statement of support to be "highly counter-intuitive." You either agree or you disagree that a) the president is a good man; b) he is doing his best for our country; and c) his best is good enough or at least as good as anyone else could do in his position. I am aware that you do not agree. a) This is unknown, but based upon the behavior I'm seeing, I have reason to doubt that he's a good man.
b) I think he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, but since his policies are deeply wrong/mistaken, he is actually not doing what is best for our nation. I do hope for and look forward to a time when he will however.
c) No, I'm sure someone could have done far better. Perhaps attempting to actually understand our economic crisis and getting advice from the people who predicted it as a result of understanding how economics works better than their counter-parts would have been a good start.
That's just fine. We disagree on all three points. We have to be okay with that, and I am. I would note merely for curiosity's sake that if someone were to make those three assertions about our previous president (and I understand that you would not) my answers would look more or less exactly like what you have written above. So it goes.
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| Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:26 am |
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horatio
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 Re: Obama, a trail of broken promises?
Another one... Quote: http://reason.com/blog/2010/01/22/happy-guantanamo-closing-day
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| Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:41 pm |
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Some Dude
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 Re: Obama, a trail of broken promises?
Found this at politifact.com. * Promise Kept 91
* Compromise 33
* Promise Broken 15
* Stalled 87
* In the Works 275
* Not yet rated 2 Cross posted in this thread.
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| Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:01 pm |
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Plekto
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 Re: Obama, a trail of broken promises?
Well, shoot, he pummels the last 4 or 5 Presidents right there in terms of doing a decent job. Of course we have to see how the others work out, especially the "in progress" ones, but I think he'll go down in history as a fairly decent enough President.
Perhaps our problem is that we expect anyone who is sitting in the Oval Office to be some sort of superman or larger than life rock star. He's just a man and the only thing we really need him to do is leave it in better state than when he received it. I think he's already done a better job that Bush, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here for at least doing an adequate enough job so far.
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| Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:03 pm |
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